Saturday, May 16, 2009

EDU 308 Summer 09 Ch. 1

Here you will post your discussion cards and respond to at least one other student's comments for each chapter in your textbook. Remember to post a question, quote, and fact from each chapter here.

44 comments:

  1. Question: Why are we so guilty of using labels such as the scenario on page 15, bottom right?

    Quote: Consciously we teach what we know; unconsciously we teach who we are.~Don Hamachek

    Fact: I found this statement on pg. 15 to be interesting. "The term minority group does not necessarily imply anything about the number of people in the group; however, it does imply something about their power.

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  2. -Question- Are all labels bad? If groups are labeled we create misunderstanding, so to overcome this do we need to completely get rid of all labels?
    -Quote- "The idea that the power to label equals the power to define, which equals the power to control.." (page 15)
    -Fact- Children become interested in the differences of skin color at age 5.

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  4. In response to Kensey's post I do not feel that all labels are bad, however I totally see where you are coming from with how we should balance positive labels or no labels at all. Great post Kensey!

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  5. In response to Kensey's post I do not think that all labels are bad, but they do cause the individuals that are being labeled to be stereotyped. These stereotypes can be positive or negative.

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  6. Question: Why do we have so much pressure on us to conform rather then to be individuals?
    Quote: "Expectations that Americans should conform have continued." (page 6)
    Fact: "Social psychologists studying the influence of peer pressure have reported that people in groups engage in behaviors they would not undertake as individuals."

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  7. Question: Why is the author so focused on cultural problems in just the U.S.A. when these problems have been in existence for thousands of years in other parts of the world? It seems that the author is focusing on American culture yet makes reference to learning material from Nazi Germany promoting hatred. Differences in cultures, hatred, prejudice, bigotry, etc. was in existence in other parts of the world long before America was discovered. I believe that we as Americans have made great strides to eliminate these negatives over the years but a lot of work is left to do. Most of these negatives are learned at home. Unfortunately that is where the battle must be taken but the chances of emerging victorious are sometimes impossible when mom & dad already have their minds set in one direction.

    Quote: (Page 17, Inset gray text)"One may no more live in the world without picking up the moral prejudices of the world than one will be able to go to Hell without perspiring." H. L. Mencken

    Fact: Our own bureaucracy of a democratic government has created labels for different groups of people in our society that has created harmful terms for our children to use in everyday language.

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  8. In response to Chelsey's post; "There's safety in numbers." This would include an individual's social and emotional safety. When people go to sporting events and paint their bodies, wear wild looking wigs, and act rabid as a fan of the team do you think they go to their job, their class, church group, or family gathering and act the same way? Probably not because they would be doing so as individuals. It's safer for people to act out with a group because "everyone else is doing it" than to go out on a limb yourself and act the same way for the fear of being labeled different, weird, stupid, crazy, etc. You raise a good question that young people who will someday be our students ask all of the time.

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  9. Question ~ Why do we say that we value certain things when our actual behavior is often contradictory? Is it fair to say or to assume that all people, at some point, will contradict what they have said they value?

    Quote ~ "If we understand our values and consistently act on them, it is more likely that our choices will reflect our highest ideals." (page 9)

    Fact ~ Allowing children to discuss and debate values, related behaviors, and consequences of these allows young people to realize, understand, and accept values of others. Discussion and debate will also allow children to decide for themselves which values they believe in and wihch are meaningful to them. (Idea from page 10)

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  10. In response to Holly's comment about minority groups and implying a lack of power it seems that the opposite is true in the United States. Whites are quickly becoming the minority group here, yet most positions of power (govt, wealthy, business owners, etc) seem to be predominantly held by white people. This seems to be a rare and contradictory occurance when compared with other nations around the world.

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  11. Question: Risberg identifed 9 values that Americans perceived as defining values of the cluture. DO you agree with these values? Of the 9 values are there some you would teke-away or add to the list?

    Fact: Ethnicity is based on cultural differences. Ethinicty refers to the historic orgins of and individual's family.

    Quote:
    " The Declaration of Independence proclaims that the United States is founded on the belief that "all men are created equal" and yet the man who wrote that statement owned slaves.

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  12. In response to Chelsey’s question; I believe that many people are afraid of expressing themselves as individuals because many people are brought up to believe that to be different is bad or wrong. This may be ceased by many different factors including family and media influence. In many movies/television shows the character that does not conform to the “cool” thing is considered to be the “dork” or “weirdo” and is made fun of. For youth this puts up a red flag because no one wants to be made fun of therefore many children are conforming to be what is considered “normal” rather than expressing their individuality.

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  13. In response to Sierrah's Post:
    I agree with these values as ones that I think ARE CURRENTLY defining a culture 1, 2, 3, 4, and 9 for all of the nations of the world. The others that I didn't mention DO define cultures, but in my opinion, non-free countires I believe 5, 6, 7, and 8 aren't considered for those that aren't priviledged. So they are still defining the culture but theirs no say in what stature you'd like to achieve for yourself.

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  14. Question: As teachers, if we along with parents are to influence and inform students of their values, how does should one go about incorporating the discuss and debate for them to learn what they believe or otherwise respect? We already have so many GLEs and standards to meet. (pg. 10)

    Fact: Confused language often reflects the discomfort people feel towards sensitive issues. The word raciam did not appear in most English dictionaries until the 1960s. (pg. 10)

    Quote:"Freedom is the right to choose: the right to create for yourself the alternatives of choice. Without the possibility of choice and the exercise of choice, human beings are not human, but instruments, thing. (pg. 19)

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  15. Fact: Diversity is more than justa difference in minority groups. It is everything that influences behavior and personality.

    Quote: "Consciousy we teach what we know;unconsciously we teach who we are." (p. 10)
    I beleive who we are will always expose itself.

    Question: Why is being dogmatic portrayed as being negative? It can be positive as well.

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  16. In response to Holly's question about labels, I believe that people tend not only to label others,but themselves as well. We all want to feel as if we fit into a group. I'm not sure that this is always a bad thing. People are naturally social and want to be involved with others. They want to find a group that they can share common interests with. Sometimes these groups and individuals come with a label.

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  17. Question:
    To what extent do labels or stereotypes affect children, especially when it is coming from another child or peer in a classroom.

    Quote: "Consciously we teach what we know. Unconsciously we teach who we are." -Don Hamachek

    Informative Interesting Fact: People in groups engage in different behaviors than they would individually. Most people do things that they would normally not do if they were not with a group of people. It's like we tend to show off for our friends, when we normally would not act a certain way.

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  18. In response to Heidi's quote, I also picked the same quote to use. I agree that unconsciously we tend to teach others about our own personal morals and beliefs without realizing it.

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  19. Good posts for Ch. 1 so far class! Do not forget to post your book ad choices for me to begin grouping you together either here or on the book ad blog post section. I will begin working on that tomorrow or Wed. as soon as everyone has posted their choices.

    Remember you can meet standards and GLES about science or English etc. and still address diversity. The same is true for math. Think about and build on your knowledge of diversity in your content areas. All scientists are not just White males. Do you know how to pull in diversity with those standards and GLES? I want you to be able to do that well. If you have questions about this, please ask me as we work through these blogs. Also, I like your discussion about labels here. Always ask yourselves whose benefitting in the end? What is the purpose? For whose purpose in the end? What are the pros and cons for labels? There are many pros and cons. If a label is a stereotype and is divisive, there is a con to it. If the label allows someone to get an IEP for needed services, is it helpful or harmful? Show me your critical thinking here.

    Keep going with your next readings!

    Good job so far,
    Dr. Hendrix

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  20. I also like the variety here! Keep up the posts and discussions.

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  21. Why is conforming necessary to a certain extent? What are the pros and cons of conforming? I like these points. Think about these some more and tie this into the injustices still in existence.
    Should we just follow along accepting those? How should we challenge injustices as change agents for our students?

    Food for thought,
    Dr. Hendrix

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  22. In response to Chelsey it seems to me that many people think if we are all individuals then there would be more prejudice, stereotypes, etc. If we all conform than we don't put ourselves out there to have things come upon us as an individual, but if they come upon a group then we can lean on each other and act more as a force.

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  23. I ordered my books yesterday, but they were out. They said the book will be here by the end of the week...I can't do my posts until then. Is that okay??

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  24. Brooke,

    Yes, I will check your posts for these chapters then. No worries! Go ahead and post comments about your peers' here. Also, start watching the two videos in the library and working on those formal journals too. Do not waste your time. I am waiting on two people to add their choices. When I have all of those posted, I will group you.

    Please stay in communication with me! I like questions.

    Take care,
    Dr. Hendrix

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  25. My book came in today! Here is Chapter 1.

    Question: How can we honor each other's nationality in the classroom without prejudice?

    Quote: "When people are free to do as they please they usually imitate each other"-Eric Hoffer (1902-1983)

    Fact: In Nazi Germany, educators were expected to teach values and beliefs in support of Aryan Superiority and Anti-Semitism.

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  26. In response to Katie's post, I think stereotypes children put on each other affect them greatly. Peer Pressure is getting worse and it seems like discrimination is affecting younger and younger kids each year. I've visited my nephew's school and heard some things I don't think I ever even knew when I was in grade school! It's kind of sad how kids put labels on each other.

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  27. My Book just came in today!

    Question: Are values individually chosen or are we taught to accept certain values?

    Quote: "When people are free to do as they please they usually imitate each other." (Eric Hoffer 1902-2983)

    Fact: Ethnicity is based on cultural differences and refers to the historic orgins of an individual's family.

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  28. In response to Katie's Quote: "Consciously we teach what we know; unconsciously we teach who we are." (Don Hamachek - contemporary)

    We teach knowledge to children from our perspective;our point of view backs up the knowledge we teach.

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  29. I am sorry you heard such comments, but they are quite common unfortunately. How will you deal with those as a teacher leader? How will you teach your students to be socially just? Just some food for thought here!

    Do not forget to list your book ad book/area choices. I will try to group you a.s.a.p.

    Keep working here!

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  30. Question: As a future teacher, how do we teach values and morals to students when they may be taught something different at home?

    Quote: "Consciously we teach what we know; unconsciously we teach who we are."

    Informative Interesting Fact: Teachers model their values whether or not they consciously choose to do so. The question is not whether values should be taught, but how they should be taught.

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  32. In response to Brooke's question, how do we honor nationality in the classroom without being prejudice? As future teachers, it is important to know our nationality as well as our beliefs and morals, but it is important to recognize the nationalities of others. We should research the nationalities of students that may be in our classroom so we can accomodate to their beliefs.

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  33. Good point here Holly! You must know your students well and build relationships with them. Respect is a two-way road. You have to give it to get it.

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  34. Question: There is a part in the chapter about how Americans emphasize individuality, but demand conformity. Why are Americans so contradicting in their values and actions?

    Quote: There is a consistent inconsistency between what we say we value and our actual behavior

    Fact: In a study of young men who had assaulted homosexuals, Franklin ( 2000) found that many of the men she interviewed expressed tolerant attitudes toward homosexuality even though they admitted that when they were with friends, they participated in verbal or physical as-saults on people perceived to be gay. When ques-tioned, 35% said they were motivated by a desire to prove their “ toughness” and to become closer to the friends who engaged in antigay behavior.

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  35. Question: Page 8 refers to giving students limited choices in order to manipulate children into making the right decisions. What if the student choses to accept the "punishment" choice instead of making the "right decision?" How does one handle a student who is unresponsive to punishment?
    Quote: "Consciously we teach what we know; unconsciously we teach who we are." Dan Hamachek
    Fact: "For a person labeled "mentally retarded," behaviors, especially negative behavior, are often explained by that single factor." p 16

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  36. In response to Dr. Hendrix

    The comments regarding knowlegde, I have seen in teachers I have had and my children have had. In taking the education courses and learning the methods of teaching make them really stand out. To handle it as an educator I feel your first knowledge is to know your children, thier background, and learning level. Talk with the parents and past educators of the children that will be in your classrom. I was in a first grade classroom this past spring and saw such a wide range of diversity and different levels of learning. But, I found it very interesting how the teacher found ways to challenge who needed to be challenged and helped who needed extra help. It was a real eye opener for me that showed you can never teach two children the same.

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  37. In response to Sarah...

    Children need choices, they should have the opportunity to do the right thing. By only giving them a yes or no choice you are setting them up for discouragement. Children should be able to come up with their own ideas which will intern keep them more apt to perform the duty. For example if all of your children have a chore let the child choose from a list. They will feel like they were a part of the decision making process and intern more excited to perform the activity.

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  38. Quote...

    When people are free to do as they please they usually imitate each other. Eric Hoffer

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  39. Our values are based on beliefs and attitudes that change frequently, resulting in an ongoing process where decisions are made and reevaluated throughout our live. pg 10

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  40. My book should be in today and will be blogging

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  41. YEA my book came in and I read all weekend

    Quote:The Primal Principle of Democracy is the worth and dignaty of the individual. Edward Bellamy (1850-1898)

    Fact: Nationality refers to the nation of ones citizenship.

    Question: Schools seem to be ont of the worst places for lables, Parents sign children up and one of the top questions is "race: check one" I have a biracial child and circle both (the schools were not happy at first) Map tasting is the same way circle one?

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  42. to johnandlennie
    great you are right the next generation needs to be independant thinkers.

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  43. In response to Jane,
    I believe we individually choose our values, but they are subject to the experiences each of us have as individuals. Our parents, friends, and teachers play a big role in how we perceive right and wrong. This is why as teachers we will have to be careful what we say and how we react around our students. In addition, I believe the media plays a huge role in shaping our ideas of beautiful, acceptable, cool, and etc.

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  44. I agree johnandlennie, we should allow children to make choices. They are going to be confronted with choices their whole lives. Introduce them to simple choices when they are young and allow their choices to change as they mature. They will be ready for the big ones when the time comes. I do this with my own children. I hope they will make the right ones when I am not there. I plan to do the same, when appropriate, in my classroom.

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