Saturday, May 16, 2009

EDU 308 Summer 09 Ch. 8

Post your discussion card and your response to another's post here for Ch. 8.

31 comments:

  1. Question: The book states that many elementary school books are culturally racist and largely overlook indigeneous people. If the textbook you use as a teacher is like this how can you incorporate un-culturally racist views to your classroom?

    Quote: "The sad truth is that most evil is done by people who never make up their minds to be either good or evil." -Hannah Arendt

    Fact: Ethnocentrism: The belief that ones race, nation, or culture is superior to all others.

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  2. Question ~ Since schools and teachers are required to follow the standards set forth by the government and since the schools are partially blamed in this chapter for reinforcing racism, would this be considered institutional racism?

    Quote ~ "If we were to select the most intelligent, imaginative, energetic, and stable third of mankind, all races would be represented." - Franz Boas (pg. 197)

    Fact ~ "White men are only 30% of the U.S. population, yet they have 75% of the most highly paid jobs." (pg. 188)

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  3. Good questions here! Can you and your students use the book in a critical way? Do you have to believe or accept everything without critically thinking about it?

    Good point about institutional racism here! We have many policies and laws that reify the "isms" still. Some proms are still segregated. Some gay couples are not allowed to attend their proms at public schools. Pay attention to these in your own schools and classes. Also, think of strategies you can use to overcome these injustices and to be just teachers. Do not just fold your arms and say, "That's the way it is." If nothing is to ever change, that's the attitude you should have.

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  4. Fact- The only nation as segregated as the United States is today was South Africa under apartheid.

    Quote- "As long as you keep a person down, some part of you has to be down there to hold him down, so it means you cannot soar as you otherwise might." Marian Anderson (p. 193)

    Question- I think that shool segregation would be a hard battle to win. People want to live in a community with others that have similar backgrounds. Sometimes moving out of neighborhoods is not an option because of finances. Wouldn't it be a better decision to put more money into the poorer districts than to have to bus students long distances away from their homes. What would be some other options?

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  5. Quote: "The sad truth is that most evil is done by people who never make up their minds to be either good or evil."-Hannah Arendt

    Fact:Hughes reports that white men are only 30% of the U.S. population, yet they have 75% of the most highly paid jobs.

    Question: As teachers, how can we prevent and avoid "tracking"?

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  6. I liked Brittany's quote a lot. It is the truth and more people should be open minded like that.

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  7. Question: Many students learn to regard being white as normal (rightness of whiteness) and unconsciously regard nonwhite people as less important. How can we help our students to not think this way when they grow up seeing white faces on television, a white Santa Claus, and white heros in literature?
    Quote: "At the start of the twentieth century, over 98 percent of blacks in the United States were native born- a much higher percentage that for whites. Blacks are as American as you can get." -Marguerite Wright
    Fact: Rightness of whiteness is a concept meaning that children learn to regard being white as normal, and to make negative judgements of those who deviate from white norms.

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  8. Question: How can we teach about racism accurately in the classroom without offending a student of another race?

    Quote: "The sad truth is that most evil is done by people who never make up their minds to be either good or evil."

    Fact: Research shows that 60% to 90% of blue-collar workers were hired because of recommendations from family or friends - and the same pattern has been observed in hiring decisions for white-collar jobs.

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  9. Question: How does society reinforce the cultural racism taught in school, and what can we do to reduce the learning of these injustices in our schools?

    Quote: "The sad truth is that most evil is done by people who never make up their minds to be good or evil." Hannah Arendt

    Fact: Research has found that tracking provides minimal value for accelerated learners, and it harms students tracked at lower levels, especially those at the lowest level.

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  10. In response to Chelsey's question; I believe that as teachers we need to incoporate cultural contributions of all races and people of other places than the United States so that the students begin to see connections between their race and other races to see that we beyond anything else are all people.

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  11. Several people have chosen the quote from Hannah Arendt. The image this creates in my mind is of a person that is not necessarily a bad person, but one that does nothing to stop the prejudices and injustices that happen around him. There are too many people in the world like this.

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  12. In response to Chelsey's question, I agree with Sierrah. I think we do need to teach our students about other cultures and traditions. It is important to recognize that these beliefs are not wrong, just different than ours and thats ok.

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  13. Question: How does society reinforce the cultural racism taught in school?

    Fact: Culture Racism is evidence when teachers and texbooks largely overlook indigenious people.

    Quote: "The sad truth is that most evil is done by people who never make up their minds to be either good or evil." Hannah Arendt (1898-1989)

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  14. In response to the definition of Ethnocentrism: Belief one race, nation or culture is superior to all others.

    In our society why do people of races, cultures or even nations think they are better than that of their neighbor? I feel if everyone shared their cultures the world we live in would understand each other more throughly. As teachers it our job to share about different cultures, nations, and races to give our students an understanding of each other.

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  15. In response to Holly's post I was recently in a college course where the instructor was discussing racism. There was one black female student in the class that the teacher would constantly turn to and ask "How does that make you feel?" How should we respond?" I realize the teacher had good intentions, however the student told me in the hallway walking out of class that she was very uncomfortable and does not like to be put on the spot to answer questions just because of the color of her skin. She also felt as if the instructor was teaching us that all people of color have the same views on racism and there is a general rule on how they are to be treated as a whole, and not individually.

    Question: How does "steering" by real estate companies affect the relationship between the students from these neighborhoods?

    Quote: "Washing ones hands of the conflict between the powerful and the powerless means to side with the powerful, not to be neutral."~Paolo Freire

    Fact: A consequence of ethnocentric education for white Americans is that they may regard certain people of color as foreign.

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  16. Fact...

    Sometimes racist messages are communicated in subtle ways.

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  17. Quote...

    Washing ones hands of the conflict between the powerful and the powerless means to side with the powerful, not to be neutral. Paolo Freire

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  18. Question...

    Many rual Northwest Missouri schools do not have populations of minority students, how can we as teachers encourage tolerance when the children are not exposed on a daily basis?

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  19. In response to Holly's question...

    I often wonder that myself. I even find myself in college class wondering what a minority student is thinking while we are learning about certain issues. When you begin to talk about it there is an instant separation drawn between white and black (for example).

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  20. Quote If we were to select the most intelligeth, inaginative, energetic and stable third of mankind, all races would be represented. Franz Boas (1858-1942)

    Fact P.188 white Privilege refers to choices and behaviors white people take for granted that people of color cannot. an invisibile package of unearned assets.



    Question It is starting to seem whites should be sorry for who they are Im not and I dont want my child to be either I want him to be very proud of his biracial self. I also want him to be respectful of other races.

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  21. Question: Regardless of a person's religion, are we not all children of the god/higher power of our own choice and or understanding? If so, when will most people realize that human beings all have the same basic needs and stop telling each other what those needs should or should not be?

    Quote: "America is a vast and quarrelsome family, a family rent by social, political, and class division, but a family nonetheless." pg 201 Leonard Pitts

    Fact: The disparity of the jobless rate for working age men was lowest in the midwestern part of the U.S. (St. Louis) compared to larger cities in other parts of the country that are usually referred to as more socially and culturally progressive than the "behind the times" midwest.

    In response to several comments; I believe that we as teachers need to build bridges, not walls when it comes to educating children about people of different color, culture, and ethnic origin. Bridges connect, walls divide.

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  22. Holly,

    Great point! There is a similar scene in Freedom Writers too. If you have not seen that video, watch it.

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  23. Jane,

    There is a lot of insecurity in the world with nations and with people. Good point!

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  24. Heidi,

    Most teachers do not even want to deal with the "isms" and the tensions/conflicts. It is so sad, and it does send the message that it is okay then.
    Good point!

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  25. Quote- "It is sad to realize how easy it is for young children in America to learn to be racist; they have learned some of these lessons from their culture."

    Question- In many cases i think people teach what they have been taught. How do we as up and coming teachers break the mold and go about this change?

    Fact- White men are only 30% of the United States population, yet they hold 75% of the most highly paid jobs.

    Response- Chelsey I think we must look for people of different cultures and represent them in our teaching with history, literature, etc. Every culture has hereos and people who have made great impact on our society; in some cases we might just have to do some digging.

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  26. In response to Kensey's question about how we as future teachers can break the mold in my opinion would be to not allow ourselves as humans and as teachers to show any bias or to make any comment that may be interpreted as so. It is also our job to make sure our students abide by this as well and to put an immediate end to any racial or bias comments or acts our students may do!

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  27. The news reported the aryan nation and simular movements are at an all time high and the shooting yesterday at in Washington DC its like 2 steps forward and one step back

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  28. Question: Critics of affirmative action say that reverse discrimination is more prevalent in today's society than discrimination...do you believe this to be true? And if so, is this a better alternative to discrimination?

    Quote: I can choose blemish cover or bandages in “ flesh” color and have them more or less match my skin. (This was on the list of assumptions that white people can make that people of color cannot. I thought it was interesting because something so simple as the availability of matching foundation for women becomes a problem if you are not white.)

    Fact: Black children are 3.5 times more likely to be part of a family living in poverty than are white children. Further, blacks are twice as likely as whites not to have health care insurance.

    In response to Sierrah's question, as well as Dr. Hendrix's reply - I think it is important to teach our students to read a textbook as they would any other book...with a critical eye. Just because we choose to use a certain text, does not mean we believe every word to be true and accurate. It is important we show this to our students.

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  29. Abigail Some company I can't remember had a test in their company to move to a higher position and none of the top 10 were a minority but a minority got the position. The white individuals have layers and saying unfair (it is) The NAACP is helping the white individuals because affirmative action only works if its baced on the best for the job not the best color.

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  30. Question: How can we as teachers, teach students about race in the classroom in the older grades without making them feel uncomfortable, or creating problems within as well as outside the classroom. It seems like most teachers try to ignore the problems withing their classrooms, instead of turning the situation into a learning experience.

    Quote- "As longas you keep a person down, some part of you has to be down there to hold him down, s it means you cannot soar as you otherwise might." -Marian Anderson

    Fact- An example of racism in schools is called "tracking" which means grouping students into categories by ability and asigning them to specific, ability-related classes.

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  31. In response to Kensey's question, I believe we need to research on our own and make desicions for ourselves. That is a belief we should try to get across to our students. Though it may be harder to teach to them at that age, once they are older they may then see that they not need believe eveything they're told and if they would have "looked it up" on their own the would have found different opinions and truths to make up their own minds and beliefs.

    Fact: "...if the United States had achieved racial equality. In education, 2 million more African American would have graduated from high school, and another 2 millon would have graduated from college." (pg. 200)

    This is powerful to me in that racial discriminations consequences hinder many individuals taht coudl be doing somehthing greater with there lives, break chains of poverty and make huge contributions to our world.

    Quote:" As long as you keep a person down, some part of you has to be down there to hold him down, so it means you cannot soar as you otherwise might." (pg 193)

    I like this quote because it reminds me that racist people don't seem as educated to me and until they got their discrimination and prejudice out of them, they won't go very far as a interactive and educated human being.

    Question: How will you educate your students on breaking cultural, individual, and instution racism chains?

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